Well another multiple game losing streak is under way.

The offense has been pathetic.

The PP has been pathetic.

We just got shutout by a team that lost 7-2 earlier this week.


Where exactly is the upside, we will not resign Ilya Kovalchuk. And even when we trade Kovalchuk we will likely have the incompetent boob who traded Hossa only to get a pathetic scrub like Christensen in return. And chances are DW will screw up our Top 3 draft pick this summer as well.

There is no upside, there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Just endless pain and continual kicks in the stomach.

Where were you the last 7 games? Off night tonight, sometimes you lose you know.

Sorry mate -about which Kovalchuk are you talking about? He was a total garbage tonite and has been since season started!t

AGREED!

Really was that necessary?

so explain the 3 losses... somehow it seems like more than just one "off night"

For us you are right, there is no upside. But for the Blue Jackets, with the addition of this Brassard kid, you have to like their nucleus. Lest face it, CBJ is a better team than the Thrash. It is what it is.

BTW, I think you are an honest and objective fan that chose to tell it like it is.

The last 2 games against Philly and the Pens they played great, tonight was just an off night for everybody (except Pavelec)

so playing 1/3 periods in philly is considered a great game?... alright

Please do not insult our intelligence. The first two periods vs. Philly were disgusting. They let a team that had played the night before walk all over them, they didn't show a pulse until the 3rd period.

I do think they put forth a decent effort vs. Pitt. But then they played like absolute garbage tonight. It was really hard to tolerate the SportsSouth TV announcers trying to spin the egg the team laid tonight.

It's all a part of being a fan. If you can't stick it out through the hard times, then don't follow the team. It's pretty simple. I've taken countless kicks to the groin by my teams but continue to come back because I'm passionate about them. If a 3 game losing streak (with only one of those games poorly played) is going to make you jump off a cliff, you are over reacting. Yeah, I know it's not just tonight, it's ever year since the Thrashers have existed, but getting through painful losses is part of what you signed up for. If you can't handle it, don't follow sports teams.

This a defying moment (part of the season) for the Thrashers this season. How will they handle the transition from a five game winning streak to losing three straight games?

And regardless of whether they gave it the good ol college try, etc etc, this is 3 straight losses & they got zero points of a possible 6. There was no excuse for them not to get at least one point in the Philly and Pit game. I could have tolerated a one point effort in those 2 games, but they gave up the winning goal late.

This is a major league where guys are paid to produce & win. No time for consoling feelings for losers. This inconsistency & ineptitude has gone on for a decade now. There is no history to pull from to feel like this pattern will be broken & its tiresome. I think I know how they will handle the 3 gm losing streak after a 5 game W streak. They will keep on losing. Not enough talent to make plays on a consistent basis & that is a fact.

I didn't realize sports were so ~serious business~. It's just a game. When the team sucks, it's not enjoyable. I've been watching Atlanta sports my whole life so I'm used to losing, but I can't blame people for being fairweather fans when the team starts losing and it stops being fun. It's just entertainment - nothing life altering, nothing that can't be replaced by something more pleasant.


I think the Thrashers have showed that they can win when they get hot and get the bounces, but they don't look like they have the talent to grind out a win even when they're not so lucky or have an off night.

+1

I'm not sure if I could have said it better myself. We had a 5-game winning streak and that's basically been destroyed by their last three games and counting. We take one step forward, and always a few more back.


+1+1=3 L's in a row.

~Mr. Wright

I am so sick and tired of this team! Why did I renew my season tickets?

I can take loss after loss if we are outclassed by a better team (which happens often). I have no patience for a complete lack of effort. No forecheck. No skating. No backcheck. Everybody just standing around and watching. I would rather watch 20 minor leaguers works their %$#%'s off because they want to be there than watch our pathetic group coast around the ice. Kovalchuk makes $78,000 per game and he has been awful all year.

Little is the only player who seemed to work hard everywhere on the ice tonight.

I'm sick of it. I'm going to start cheering for the other team when I go - maybe that will make me feel better. Actually, that's not a bad idea. Cheer for the other team until Waddell is relieved of his duties.

AGREED!

Wish you were HERE

If you're paying your money, that that is your God given right to start cheering for whomever you want to. I went to the Pit game & thought that the concessionaires should be selling pierogies & Iron City Beer, so if you root for the opponent you might be in the majority for some games. I'll keep my ticket package as long as there is NHL hockey around, some guys on other teams are worth watching.

I do disagree with you that this team (for the most part) is not giving the effort. They really are not good enough & CBJ was a superior team on the ice tonight. They just were not able to make plays aganst this team. Kovalchuck played a bad game, but some of his bad play was due to impatience & lack of discipline, something you have to have aganst Columbus.

Also, maybe is was not such a bad idea that he does NOT have the C on his jersey. I am not satisfied with him this year, that's for sure.

The frustration on this board is pent up because of a decade of failure & the organization insists on keeping the same GM, & some of the people on the scouting staff have been here since day one. For example, Bob Owen, he has been around here since then. In essence, the Thrash top brass rewards failure with the opportunity to screw up more. How do you not expect people not to be disgusted. Wadell is in charge, he deserves the wrath, but in this organization, I doubt he goes anywhere.

I disagree. I agree the team isn't talented enough, but they ALSO don't give the effort. Sometimes they do, but sometimes it's amazing the way they let other teams just have their way. The Thrashers are not aggressive, they're not playing the body, they're not challenging, they don't win the battles, they don't win the races to the puck - that doesn't take any considerable amount of talent, they're just not working hard enough. And it's weird to me that this problem has persisted since the start even though the coaches have changed and the players have changed.

Amen.

Eh, I will still defend them....

They might suck, fall apart, and lack true NHL talent...

but they are still my team....

Oh well....SSDD

1.) Columbus is playing well and is 5-2-3 in their last ten. So they lost badly against EDM, but that was really the goalies' fault. No shame in losing to CBJ, Pitt, or PHI really, and we were competitive in all of those games.

2.) It's not easy playing against a team you rarely play against that plays much different from Eastern teams.

3.) CBJ is a big team, we're not...we're built to play against SE and some NE teams, not teams like CBJ.

4.) If you can't appreciate what the team did right tonight, then I can't help any of you...

5.) If this team is driving you nuts this year, then you deserve your misery. I'm enjoying it.

and that makes us less than pathetic. lol columbus? really?

no sustained forcheck all night, Dan Kamal said they could play until monday mourning and not score. I just hope that they can do something to turn this shipwreck around before it is too late for this season.Blueland was very Blue tonight.

Very poor effort.

Probably the most boring game all year. Even the Flyers blowout loss was more interesting to watch than this one. It was like watching paint dry.

A pox on all trapping teams. A pox on all Ken Hitchcock teams. Ugh. That's ugly hockey.

3 poor games and 16 pretty good ones. I'll still take this year's club over last year's club. Every team is going to have a poor night now and they--the problem is we needed to win more points in those 16 games where the effort was solid.

You're entitled to your opinion, but unless you have some magical crystal ball, your prediction holds about as much weight as air.

It does suggest something ingrained at an institutional level...something within the culture of the team that can't seem to be overcome by coaching. The coaches we've had have been successful at their respective levels before coming here, the players we've had...well, they've not all been 4th-line rejects from other teams. Other than Holik the choice of captains seem to have been pretty responsible, too.

At what point does a player get here and realize that all he needs to do is play well enough to keep a spot on the roster and he's able to continue drawing an NHL-level salary? Are the Thrashers really the NHL equivalent of Peter Gibbons from "Office Space"? To wit, they're not necessarily lazy; they just don't care...their only motivation is to avoid losing their jobs, meaning they'll work just hard enough not to get fired.

Too bad more aren't taking this route.

Honestly if you're sick and tired of everything that's happened then go watch another sport, go find another team, but most of all just go.

Never in my life have I seen so many grown people wine and moan since I was a regular on the CBJ fan forum.

Looks like you have an answer to the thread title, Sarcasmo.

Shouldn't that also apply to them playing us as well? Or is it only some type of excuse the only applies for the Thrashers?

So the fact that the defending Stanley Cup champions are the smallest team in the league is a valid excuse for why they lose to bigger teams (a.k.a. everyone else)? LOL.

There is no "right" way to lose. It's as simple as that.

~Mr. Wright

What really gets me about this board is when the team loses a game the board lights up with multiple threads of doom and gloom. I choose not to read most of those threads. When the team wins there is very little talk about it on here.

Yes I am disheartened about the results game tonight, but I am still going to show up at every single game and support my team like I have every game for the past couple of years.

Win or lose this is my team and nothing is going to change that.

It's hard to talk about something that doesn't happen too often. That would be called fantasy.

~Mr. Wright

Philly was a bad game in the point of view of Thrasher because we let them beat us the first 30 min of the game.
Pits was a bad game because of the horrible refs, but we still should have beaten them.
Last night was just sick because almost no one gave any effort to actually win. The CBJs played not to lose and won because of us not even trying to play them. I thought we got rid of the cancers, but I guess I'm wrong.

It's interesting to note that both Columbus and Atlanta have been somewhere between utter crap and mediocrity throughout their whole histories. I wonder if that may be the cause of the whining and moaning.

No it would be called expressing the outcome of a positive game in words which has always been a rarity on this board. If one can over analyze a situation as bad and start numerous threads about how a player needs to be traded and they ain't no good or they lost the dang game for the team then why the heck can one not talk about how a player won the game?

Welcome to the world of human nature.

And your last bit of credibility just went out the window. I was at the game and watched all 60 minutes. Did you?

We looked miserable and mostly beat ourselves tonight. It was very sloppy.

Tonight was inexusable and Anderson needs to light a fire under their asses quick.

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Apparently you over-analyzed my comment. It's simple. We do not win that often, which leaves us in the position to talk about it "very little." And if you look at it on a season-by-season basis where the ultimate goal is make the playoffs, we have failed 7 out of 8 tries. The one time we actually didn't "fail", it was about as close to fail as you can get. It's like winning a trip to the Caribbean, only to have your plane crash (Ok maybe that's a bit of a stretch, but still). I could understand if we happened to be an organization that consistently won and made the playoffs and people freaked out when we lost a game or two and then people like you try to look at the positives, but honestly our history speaks for itself. For me, this isn't just about losing three games in a row. It's about watching losing hockey for nearly a decade. And I think for anyone who has put in the time to witness that, they have more than earned their right to complain.


Where were you during the 5-game winning streak or off-season changes? I saw plenty of positive threads/posts.

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Apparently you over-analyzed my comment. It's simple. We do not win that often, which leaves us in the position to talk about it "very little." And if you look at it on a season-by-season basis where the ultimate goal is make the playoffs, we have failed 7 out of 8 tries. The one time we actually didn't "fail", it was about as close to fail as you can get. It's like winning a trip to the Caribbean, only to have your plane crash (Ok maybe that's a bit of a stretch, but still). I could understand if we happened to be an organization that consistently won and made the playoffs and people freaked out when we lost a game or two and then people like you try to look at the positives, but honestly our history speaks for itself. For me, this isn't just about losing three games in a row. It's about watching losing hockey for nearly a decade. And I think for anyone who has put in the time to witness that, they have more than earned their right to complain.

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This sums up the way I feel about this team. I accepted it the first three or four years because the team started from scratch. But, come on, this is not a first or second year expansion team anymore, they have had time to have a reasonable track record of success. Even during the 2 decent years they had, they would pull this win 5 lose 5 etc etc.

Not to mention the team's recent history of not keeping its best players. The cycicisim is justified. I'd have more confidence in them if they would at least keep their best players, which they haven't done. Instead, they replace people like Savard with garbage like Kapanen & Rucchin. The Hoss trade gets an incomplete grade for now, but we are not a better team without him.

why is any of this a surprise? i can't be the only person that looked at our roster and saw "non playoff team". this team is doing about what i expected and most so called "experts" predicted. "surprise" some teams..but not a playoff team.

as was said.. it shouldn't alter your life..it's entertainment... if you've been a fan forever like some of us.. you should be used to it by now. i hate that i lower my expectations ever year..but i actually look at the roster. Jim Slater !! yay ! he's an all-star...

no.

They were "competitive" only in this sense--ONE player was outstanding--Ondej Pavelec kept them in that game.

I am a kool aid drinker, but tonight was ridiculous. Awful game, awful effort from most. More turnovers than a bakery. I'm usually not on the Pavs bandwagon, but I gotta say that young man stopped us from being slaughtered. Hainsey made a good showing a few times as did Perrin.

That said, I 100% agree with this although I do think we have some real talent (there's the kool aid kicking in):




If they keep opening the doors, I'll keep showing up. Go Thrashers.

I'm with you TrueBlue.
It is just a matter of keeping it in perspective. Our team doesn't have the talent to make it a contender. We are destined to be a 10th - 12 th place finish team in the east. Kozlov and Little have come on strong, so the 10th place finish could be a reality.
The winning and losing streaks will continue all season. But nothing will make us one of the upper teams in the east this season. As a famous Bruce once said, we've just got to deal with it.
But I do also agree that there is much frustration when the poor effort is so apparent.

By the way SF1, I love your flow chart. It just sort of boils things down to a common denominator.

I watched the entire game at home, and TiVO'ed ever mistake over and over again. There was plenty of passive play out there from the likes of Christensen and Williams...and I'm disappointed in Thorburn and Kovalchuk is mad at himself and deservedly so...but there was plenty of effort too. X, Hainsey, Perrin, White, Oystrick, Reasoner, Little, Armstrong, even Kozlov at times...these guys busted their butt all night. CBJ is a decent team, and big and strong which is our weakness...I knew this coming into the game. We have problems against teams like Philly, Boston, and CBJ win or lose, and y'all are surprised and up in arms about the "effort". Yeah, the effort wasn't all there, but for every great save Pavs made Mason made a great save too despite our early lack of shots on goal: we made Mason work and that's not recognized. There were some bad calls Kozlov's "roughing" and a few calls that could have been made against CBJ. Columbus blocked a heck of a lot of shots too which was a big factor. They played a great defensive game, and that's not recognized. It's just "We suck, and Tox is a freakin' moron."

We are a goaltenders nightmare and if I was Pavs or Kari I would be demanding a trade so I could go to a team that can produce goals on a nightly basis. It's sad to have to pray for just one goal while Mr. Elliot tries in vain to not openly explain that the Thrashers are just plain bad. We are outsized almost every night and it shows with the extreme lack of physical play we need to win. We need size and talent like Columbus has (not to mention most teams) and a trade of Kari's talent could produce that. Every line, even our so called enforcer line, needs help being more physical and that means making alot of player changes. I don't see this lineup making any changes in their playing styles no matter who coaches them. They can't control the puck and until they can this will be a long season. Also, they need a lot of practice time shooting the puck on goal in traffic, I have never seen so many blocked shots from one team in my life, it's like the puck is a magnet attracted to the other teams sticks, skates, and anything in between. Well that was my vent but feel no better.

What I saw last night was us never being able to get into the offensive zone without having to dump the puck. And most times when we dumped, Columbus got to it and cleared it right back out.

I felt our defense played pretty well overall. X and Hainsey were pretty solid, Schneider played well and Enstrom was skating circles around the opponent on several occasions. When I left the game last night, it was the offense I was muttering and complaining about. I thought they were weak and ineffective pretty much the entire game. Mason made a couple great saves and we did get robbed by the crossbar early on, but DANG our guys miss the net a lot.

As a wise coach once said, the reason why we lost was we just couldn't put the biscuit in the basket, the stuffing in the turkey, the turkey in the oven, the lightening in the bottle, the cat in the hat...yeah, that's why we lost...we couldn't put the cat in the hat...